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Hartnett whips up a storm at the ICAEW

19 Nov 2009, David Jetuah, AccountancyAge

http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/1752155/hartnett-whips-storm-icaew

HMRC permanent secretary for tax Dave Hartnett

The permanent secretary for tax and commissioner of HM Revenue & Customs has never been afraid of ruffling a few feathers and Dave Hartnett did not disappoint at a recent address to some of the UK’s most eminent tax advisers.

Hartnett set out plans for a higher level of trust between the taxman, corporates and advisers at the ICAEW’s annual Hardman lecture but hit out at those still looking to cheat the UK’s tax system.

Although his speech was entitled Tax, Transparency and Trust, he still took a swipe at those salting away income in offshore tax centres.

“Few people put their money in Caribbean tax havens because they are looking for excellence in fund management,” he said. He also hit out at some advisers. “What are we to make of the alchemists at work at the moment turning lead into gold ­ or in this case income into capital ­ managing incredibly carefully what HMRC learns about their activities.”

The mood in the audience was decidedly frosty and Hartnett was taken to task for what experts saw as a heavy handed-approach that would harm those genuinely looking to clarify their tax affairs.

“There are serious concerns about the extensive powers HMRC is asking for and the effect on the ordinary person or adviser,” said Anne Redstone, visiting professor at Kings College, which generated applause from the audience.

Hartnett provided a telling glimpse of HMRC’s stance going forward as he laid down a challenge to corporates and advisers demanding they allow HMRC staff access to their most confidential systems.

He said he would be writing to the major corporates and tax advisers in the next few weeks asking them to commit to a charter to allow broader secondments of staff and grant them access to more information.

“It’s just not enough to say you crave certainty in tax administration without investing in the people charged to deliver it: Take HMRC people on secondment,” Hartnett said.

“I’m afraid I cringe when a firm or company says ‘we’ll take on your people, but you can’t see our systems’. It’s just not enough.”

Hartnett repeated his warning that the second tax amnesty was the last opportunity high earners would have to come clean. “We’re offering one more chance to sleep easy at night by disclosing income held in offshore locations.”

Visitor comments

Harnett comments on secondments naive?

I think Dave's comments on more access for HMRC secondees to company's systems are naive. I have recently undertaken a secondment to a financial services company and did not have (nor did I want or need for that matter) access to their most confidential systems. Here's a question for you Dave - If I were to be seconded to a government department such as the Treasury or the MoD (for example) would I be given full access to their confidential systems? I very much doubt it - there are many reasons why the majority of a company's own employees do not have full access to the company's confidential information such as price sensitivity of that information, increasing the risk of insider dealing, security threats etc and in my opinion, a secondee should be given greatly reduced access and be fully supervised as they are a higher risk to any business. The arguments Dave puts forward to justify additional access for HMRC secondees just smacks of 'fishing expedition'. In my opinion HMRC secondees should not be treated any differently to any other secondee and the secondment should include reduced access to the company's confidential information. I certainly would not sign a charter - if anything this would make me more likely to stop HRMC secondments altogether.

Posted by: Not so naive Jane , 26 Nov 2009 | 00:00

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