04 Mar 2010
During 2009 this magazine printed a profile of myself in which I stated that I was many things, not least chief executive of a public company. The thing of which I was most proud was being a chartered accountant. Indeed that is how I describe myself on my passport.
Something has perplexed me over the years. I hear accountants moaning about the profligacy of the Institute and fees but don’t complain to the president. Accountants are supposed to be frugal and look after both their and their clients’ money. It is a disgrace when the ICAEW doesn’t set an example and show similar prudence.
The accounts of the ICAEW reveal several interesting facts. 600 people are employed on an average salary of £45,000 per annum. Most commercial organisations are moving to defined contribution pensions but they still have a defined benefit scheme. I am surprised how much the chief executive pays himself for presiding over this overstaffed bureaucracy (in 2008 £425,000 plus the final salary scheme).
The ICAEW it appears has acquiesced to a few cranks who feel the Institute should provide the unnecessary. Information on the economy, which most members never read, is probably done better elsewhere, not least by the four major firms of chartered accountants in this country. The Institute should have a limited role and chartered accountants wherever they may be should attempt to restrain the excesses. They should be confined to:
* maintenance of the register of members;
* examination of potential new chartered accountants;
* maintenance of professional standards and discipline of the occasional member that errs;
* communication to chartered accountants on accounting standards and other relevant factors which chartered accountants require in their job in industry or in their profession;
* advice on how to charge for their services.
I see no advantage to the members in England and Wales in having a Singapore office and various other offices throughout the world. I would have thought a hundred staff maximum could do the job that is required. Perhaps a member might care to stand for the council on the manifesto that 80% of what the Institute produces is superfluous. Failing that, perhaps members who don’t like the profligacy will write and express their dissatisfaction. I have written and expressed my dissatisfaction but I am just one chartered accountant. The latest accounts show there are now 133,000 members. Even if they paid half the fees they pay at the moment that is considerably more than a well run institute would need to provide more than what is required.
what not to do
“The institute only asks people what they want. I’ve told [chief executive]
Michael Izza you ought to ask: ‘What do you not want?’ They provide lots of
things because a few people ask for something. They produce lots of stuff most
don’t actually want – they should really find out a consensus of things. They
should also work at improving the image of the accountant. That’s what the
institute should do. Accountants are not valued.”
Peter Hargreaves, July 2009.
Peter Hargreaves is chief executive of Hargreaves Lansdown
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At Last Some Common Sense!
Could not agree with you more Peter.
Our institute is supposed to represent us, ie. accountants in England and Wales. Why on earth they would want to open offices in far flung places is beyond me. It is purely an attempt to mimic the ACCA in that they want to be global as well.
I would prefer an institute that simply does what it states on the tin and at a price I can afford.
Hope you put yourself up for election onto the council. I'm sure many would vote for you.
Posted by: Paul Green, 04 Mar 2010 | 00:00
Fit for purpose
I welcome Peter Hargreaves' comments. I have long thought and been concerned that the Institute is over-bloated, apparently almost unaccountable to its members, and inexorably continues to increase in size and cost. Most of what it produces is unnecessary and of no value to its members and I cannot conceive what its 600 plus staff do. I agree with Peter Hargreaves that we the members should start a campaign to rein-in its activities and reduce its size, costs and complexity, ensure it is accountable to us and that its role and functions are restricted to areas that are important to us as Chartered Accountants. I urge fellow members to write to express their dissatisfaction with their Institute.
Posted by: Simon Davey, 05 Mar 2010 | 00:00
Freeze
If I remember correctly, some years ago we froze the subs level for a few years and that caused some self regulation to occur inside the ICAEW.
Perhaps another freeze (5 years?) would again allow the ICAEW to work on the real priorities for its membership?
Posted by: Michael Carter, 05 Mar 2010 | 00:00
Giving up on the Institute
I thought the Institute was an organisation for its menbers, not a public service or any other service.
There are so many departments, it is far too difficult to track down the correct individual or group given any query. Each query seems to sub-divide into numerous sub-definitions in tracking down the responsible section in the Institute. For many years now I have been considering resigning as I cannot see what actual benefit the Institute is for me or my practice. Is there an alternative? I would be very interested in hearing of it.
Posted by: Richard Brown, 08 Mar 2010 | 00:00
Should POB be more pro-active
I am dismayed by the reluctance of the CCAB Bodies here and in Ireland to merge. A meger would provide many efficiencies and the Regulator would be able to supervise more easily one professional institute.
Is it now time for the POB or a replacement Statutory Regulator to take an active role in this matter
Posted by: Damien Roche, 13 May 2010 | 00:00